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Post by Grey Hunter on Mar 6, 2007 0:55:48 GMT -5
In Alex's post, he kept talking about the Ork's green ichor.
I remember reading somewhere though that orks had red blood. I remember there was some actual scientific reasoning behind it, but mostly it was just to make it more dramatic. I mean, red blood is dramatic... green blood on green skin makes it more like that the ork had an accident with a lime slushie.
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Post by witchking92 on Mar 6, 2007 1:37:35 GMT -5
Ahhh! To the Codex! Reading the 3rd edition, I can find no mention of what an Ork's blood would look like. It does mention that they have blood, and that their blood clots. They may have a slimlyness to them, I suppose, although it makes no mention of that in the Codex. This slime would be more akin to sweat that blood I suppose.
In my opinion, I think Orks have red(or some shade there of) blood, just like Eldar and Humans. They all are linked back to the old ones, and the old ones liked to build races that are sort of similar. Although the Orks came from the Krork, the Krork were created by the Old Ones, and they were the ancestors of the orkiod race we know and love. And if Eldar and Humans have red blood than I assume that the Old ones would use similar biology to create the Krork. Even though the Krork are technically algae.
And finally read this quote from the Codex "The standard genetic structure of the orkiod remains essentially the same as man's" This implies that they have similar biology, and in my opinion, similar blood.
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Post by IncubiLord on Mar 6, 2007 2:03:46 GMT -5
Orc blood is red because green blood looks utterly crap on green skin. This was actually mentioned in a WD article sometime within the last year or so, if memory serves. I think it was also for Fantasy - note the variation of spelling.
Remember that Orks are actually a mixed organism, with a plant genetic strand and their own animal genetics - this means that their animal attributes (pretty much everything but the photosynthetic skin and plant-reproduction) tend to fall with the normal parameters.
However, if you go back to my 2ed Ork codex, you get this little tid-bit:
"Their blood, which is green, carries a symbiotic algae through their veins, digesting and reconstituting damaged body tissue and even rebuilding major organs."
So take your pick. Either it's edition drift and Ork blood is now red for aesthetic purposes, or it hasn't been directly contradicted and Ork blood is green because they said so in 2ed - back when codices came with fluff in them.
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Post by Grey Hunter on Mar 6, 2007 2:25:52 GMT -5
Yea that WD article was what I remember reading. Green blood does look retarded on green skin. I say that Ork blood is red man... I mean, artists who make all those heroic drawings of Space Marines always depict boltguns with shell casings. In the 'fluff', boltguns don't have shell casings. However... bolt cases are SO much more dramatic. Like, that's why people always thingy their guns at the moment of truth... even though you'd think they'd have done so BEFORE getting into a gunfight =). A space marine firing his boltgun in a desperate last stand, bolt casings piling at his feet, is a lot more dramatic than him firing basically mini-rpgs.
Also... being covered in green blood... that would just be anti-climactic. It would look less heroic, and altogether more disgusting.
"Look guys! The Sarge has gonorreah!" "Bwahahaha!!!! You got PWNT Sarge!" "Shuddup! =("
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Post by alex on Mar 6, 2007 3:14:48 GMT -5
My bad. From now on all the orks I kill will have red blood. I guess I just assumed they had green blood. They are after all fungus men.
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Post by rddragon5 on Mar 6, 2007 6:39:50 GMT -5
The only way I could see green Ork blood looking good and bloody, is if it does what red blood does when looked at in a large container.
Black.
If you've ever seen pictures of donated blood then you'll know that blood looks way darker when its not just some little papercut on you pinky. So I could see Orks have dark, dark, dark green blood. Then think start to look cool again.
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Post by kyrolon on Mar 6, 2007 13:49:40 GMT -5
Just remember to stop and ask them before swinging or shooting to make sure you don't hit any of the green blooded ones. ;D
~Dan
BTW - I thought it was green too -- maybe from that older reference.
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Post by atlantianwarrior on Mar 6, 2007 17:53:34 GMT -5
Red blood, green blood whats the difference. If it is not human kill it. The Emperor wills it.
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Post by Grey Hunter on Mar 6, 2007 21:06:39 GMT -5
Had to address a few comments that were nagging at me.
First off, Dragon, blood that's donated is dark because it is de-oxygenated. I had to do this lab at University not even to long ago. We would add and remove oxygen from rabbit blood to look at the effects, and when you removed oxygen the blood got very, very dark crimson. Adding oxygen makes it very bright, almost pink. Donated blood is kept sealed because they have to prevent contamination, that's why it's so dark. Freshly drawn blood would be totally saturated with oxygen, the hemoglobin would be bright red... thus if ork blood WAS red, as it should be, it would be bright red.
Secondly... how does being a fungus make ork blood green? Real fungi doesn't have blood... so it's impossible to say that were fungi to bleed they'd bleed green. I mean, guessing what color a plant's blood would be is like guessing what color a rock would bleed. Green comes from chlorophyl, nothing to do with blood at all.
My vote is still that orks bleed red blood... haha if you watch carefully in the Dawn of War intro, and the game, the orks bleed red! Same with Final Liberation, and all those old-school warhammer games. Hahaha.
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Post by alex on Mar 6, 2007 22:37:18 GMT -5
Had to address a few comments that were nagging at me. Secondly... how does being a fungus make ork blood green? Real fungi doesn't have blood... so it's impossible to say that were fungi to bleed they'd bleed green. I mean, guessing what color a plant's blood would be is like guessing what color a rock would bleed. Green comes from chlorophyl, nothing to do with blood at all. My vote is still that orks bleed red blood... haha if you watch carefully in the Dawn of War intro, and the game, the orks bleed red! Same with Final Liberation, and all those old-school warhammer games. Hahaha. I said they were fungus 'men'. And that adds absolutly nothing to this discussion. Of course real fungus doesn't grow to be a mean spirited ork either. After seeing this thread I was going to load up Dawn of War to see what color the orks blood was. Now I don't have to. To be honest when I was writing my bat rep it was late and I didn't really put it together that having green blood was odd. At the time I thinking of orks, orks are green, thus green must have been stuck in my head. Orks in LOTR have black blood, don't they? I seem to remember that from the books. Hear's another question then, what color is Tyranid blood? I need to write up a bat rep agianst them for this week.
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Post by kyrolon on Mar 7, 2007 0:13:32 GMT -5
I vote for purple. That's different. ;D Actually, maybe 'Nid blood can vary by strain. Is leviathan the same as Kraken? Lets cut up some of Grey Hunters bugs and see.
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Post by Grey Hunter on Mar 8, 2007 16:32:00 GMT -5
haha yea but problem for you brah, my 'nids are Behemoth, so checking me out isn't going to answer Leviathan OR Kraken... sucks man.
Also, 'nid blood definitely is like, purple, almost black.
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Post by eldarcommander on Mar 20, 2007 3:14:17 GMT -5
Umm not that it is relevant or adds anything to the conversation, but my Avatar is posed to be killing an Ork, and that Ork's blood is bright red. The uncharred and burnt pieces of the Ork that is. The Avatar has bright orange blood, the color of molten metal. Again not relevant, but still, it needed to be said.
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Post by witchking92 on Mar 20, 2007 18:02:30 GMT -5
I have imagined nid blood to be many different colors, depending on genus. Perhaps one fleet has purplish black blood, while another has bright neon green blood.
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'ummies-red beakies-red spikey beakies- red fish'ead- bluw? boyz-red('uns go fasta') Tear-a-nidz- dontz know wat a Tear-a-nid iz Sissies-red Silvah Beakies-red Silvah Old Dudes-Nuffin'! Pansies-red me finks pysco pansies-red too
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Post by alex on Mar 21, 2007 0:19:11 GMT -5
So pretty much everyone has red blood. How boring.
Come on, wheres the pepto bismo klingon blood?
I did write up my latest batt rep against orks as them having red blood. It was everywhere so it was easier to notice. The marines who reported the ork blood as green have been properly punished for their prank.
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